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Grateful DeadGrateful Dead Live at Huntington Civic Center on 1978-04-16 (April 16, 1978)

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Collection: GratefulDead
Band/Artist: Grateful Dead
Date: April 16, 1978 (check for other copies)
Venue: Huntington Civic Center
Location: Huntington, WV

Source: Soundboard
Lineage: SBD> Reel > PCM> DAT> CDR> SHN
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Keywords: Live concert


Description

Jack Straw, Dire Wolf, Cassidy, Peggy-O, Mexicali Blues-> Mama Tried, They Love Each Other, Minglewood Blues, Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain Samson & Delilah, Ship of Fools, Estimated Prophet-> Eyes Of The World-> Drums-> Iko Iko-> Sugar Magnolia, E: U.S. Blues

Notes

SBD> Reel > PCM> DAT> CDR> SHN; via Mike Lai, Chris Vinci to etree, via breaker to abgd.hs; note copy a seeded to etree 2/00, copy b seeded to abgd 2/01- these differ by only 1 checksum, d1t12; static for a few seconds at the beginning of Sunshine Daydream

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Reviewer: West Virginia Mt Man - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - December 14, 2013
Subject: to the review below
I love this show!! might want to check your geography. This show is in West Virginia!! Very good vibes in these hill?
Reviewer: focusup2 - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - October 14, 2013
Subject: Good Show
Really nice show. I'm always amazed how different east coast and west coast sows were in the 60's-70's.
West coast shows seemed much more laid back while east coast shows were a bit more intense.
Having said that this is one of the better west coast shows I've heard
Reviewer: clementinescaboose - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - March 30, 2012
Subject: Great Show!
One of the best of 1978. I think the 1st set is a little better than the 2nd. Peggy-O is stunning, and Jerry's all over the tight segue from Scarlet to Fire with that Mutron!
Reviewer: dcain - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - September 12, 2010
Subject: Spirited
March 15, 2005:
Jack Straw features some expressive and poignant lines from Garcia. At the end of the second solo, he switches over to chords; his third chord run, a frenzied blur, is the charm. One of the better versions e.g. 1/7/78, 11/6/79.

His solo on Dire Wolf is also inspired, a rare treat.

The 4/11 and 2/5 Scarlet-Fires are better; his lines are more focused and inventive.
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September 11, 2010:
When I saw today World2Give's comment of 12-8-08 re: the 4-16 Scarlet-Fire vs. 4-11, I felt obliged to review my earlier listen. So I did.

The key difference occurs during what I call the "exit" from Fire, where the sung verses are finished and Garcia begins with that memorable, descending ten-note theme.

In the 4-16 concert, it begins at 6:23 and features short bits of notes, with no line particularly melodic or inventive. At 7:11, Weir enters with his slide, and he's still at it around 7:50. At that point, Garcia goes completely over to chords (interesting; but I'd much prefer hearing him improvise on that theme). By 8:36 they take it out.

By contrast, during the 4-11 concert, Garcia sounds the exit theme at 7:13 and delivers two sustained minutes of melodic invention. Pin your ears at 8:02 and dig the incredible little melody he creates, followed by another bit of Beethoven at 8:15 - 8:18. He brings this to an apparent peak at 8:25 when the drums come literally galloping in behind him. Still far from done, at 9:15 he finds his way to another peak, trilling a note, then chords, and is so frenzied he bonks into himself at 9:25.

(after Garcia sings the line "why you wanna give more," somebody audibly answers "why?" at 6:13)

As for comparing the Scarlet end of the couplet, the 4-16 Scarlet jam begins at 4:43 with Donna scatting for more than three minutes, returning for a shout at 8:51. Garcia begins quite softly, and goes to his Mutron early. He's fairly fast, underwater bubbly. The opening of Fire is a bit better here, because Garcia plays the theme.

By contrast, I found the 4-11 Scarlet jam more interesting in many respects (as well as a couple minutes longer): the band kind of spins out around 6:40, with Weir finding the way, tossing off a new, two chord pattern; there's a big note from Lesh at 7:25; and a really interesting pattern Garcia discovers at 10:08 (he eventually gets to his Mutron at 10:50; and they keep at it until 11:41 when he plays a five note signal towards Fire).

To World2Give's point, I may still be out of touch with reality :) --- let's hope so! --- but that's a fair telling of what my ears heard.
Reviewer: phishphan9698 - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - April 16, 2010
Subject: love!!!!!!!!!
A few weeks ago I received the greatest gift a dead head could ever want over 250 hours of dead 100 hours of jgb all DAT>TRUE1stGEN>< ALL FROM THE WELL> A friend was a big DAT taper in late 80's early 90's So I picked up a tape deck and looked through the tapes and pulled this out. The 32nd anniversary of this show. I have listen to tons of shows all years and this show was great. I could not leave the room listen to it straight through. < JUST BE HAPPY WE HAVE ALL THIS TO LOOK BACK ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP COMPARING YEARS WHICH ONES BETTER WHAT SONG ON WHICH NIGHT... LOVE IT ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my first show was 6-11-93 BUCKEYE>6-30-95 my last 9 in all. I MISS THE FEELING BEFORE HEADING TO A SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ENJOY EVERYONE!!!!!!!! LIVING LIFE 45 MIN AT A TIME
Reviewer: Rogue Trucker - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - December 31, 2008
Subject: Peggy - O
This is my favorite version.
Reviewer: World2Give - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - December 8, 2008
Subject: No Way Dude
dcain SAID:
"The 4/11 and 2/5 Scarlet-Fires are better; his lines are more focused and inventive."
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Dude you are so out of touch with reality if you think that the 4-11-78 version is better than this one, 4-16-78....
I know it's all a matter of opinion but really... you can't honestly think that the Atlanta version is better there is no comparison....

I have to believe that you were probably preoccupied with something when you listened to this Huntington Scarlet Fire.
Reviewer: srtg83 - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - April 17, 2008
Subject: 30th anniversary
Today is the 30th anniversary of this special show. Less than 1000 heads in attendance...Try the recently released MOTB Betty Board which is arguably the best sounding non-commercial release around...hell it may be better than some of the two track DPs.


p.s. Friedclam, try 6.20.1983 for the craziest Sugar Mag on a night when God conducted the Grateful Dead. Bobby even tried to smash his guitar ala Pete Townshend while screaming like a hyena in heat at the end of SSDD.
Reviewer: The Tekoa Kid - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - April 16, 2008
Subject: Deadheads from Brooklyn
We chartered a bus from Brooklyn to see 2 shows in West VA. This one just blew us away. Fifty college kids from Kingsborough Community College and some strange green paper with these large dots on them.
The bus driver had no idea what he was in for....
Reviewer: Aging Head - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - October 2, 2007
Subject: Most Memorable Show
I saw the Dead/Jerry Garcia Band about 20 times beginning in the early 70's and ending at Boreal Ridge (CA) in 1985. The Huntington show was by far the best. Perhaps the music wasn't as crisp and the jams as tight, but being a member of that 900-1000 person Huntington audience was a once in a lifetime experience. Those in attendance actually felt like they were part of the band--a very intimate audience/band experience. Estimated Prophet/Eyes/and Peggy-O were classic. The band played for an awfully long time because THEY WERE HAVING FUN. I will never forget it and every show that I saw after this one (including a few nights later in Columbus) were anticlimatic.
Reviewer: poomouth - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - September 30, 2007
Subject: flibber
lol, she had rings on her fingers and shoes on her toes! I do believe you can hear Jerry laughing on that delivery.

This shows got a lot of heart, great energy
Reviewer: Leshtricity - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - September 30, 2007
Subject: Goddamnit...
What a phenomenal show! Smokin' from start to finish. Eyes is particularly crisp.

RIGHT-CLICK and that's all I got to say about the matter.
Reviewer: UncleBobby - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - August 21, 2007
Subject: Awesome, but help
One of the best I've heard lately.... can someone tell me how to download this show?

thanks!
Reviewer: BulldogWCU - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - August 21, 2007
Subject: Date a Drug Elf II
I also had this on the Date a Drug Elf disc and had the same problems a couple of years ago. This is my wife's favorite. So good to hear it again.
Reviewer: friedclam - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - August 16, 2007
Subject: One of the best Sugar Magnolias ever
I dare someone to come up with a better Sugar Magnolia, I dare ya
Reviewer: mikesalvio - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - August 2, 2007
Subject: I was there
This show is burned into my mind. There was only about 1000 people in this theater and half of them were tripping. The stage was bombarded with joints and roses. I leaned (whenever I felt like getting out of my seat) on the stage directly in front of Garcia. He was so close I could reach out and untie his shoe lace if I wanted. He wore sneakers that day instead of the usual, at the time, black boots. I saw the Dead many times but this one was like a personal show because of the small amount of people there. This was a dream come true.
Reviewer: CosmicCowboy - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - April 15, 2007
Subject: top notch 78' show
This first set was the first gd tape i ever received. it was givin to me by my english teacher my freshman yr of highschool and it turned me onto the dead big time.
my favorite peggy-o ever...soo passionate
& the scarlet>fire is smokin!
thnx Ms. Ours
Reviewer: wandering fool - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - December 23, 2006
Subject: Date A Drug Elf
This is one of the greatest Dead shows I've ever heard. I had it on a bootleg disc called "Date A Drug Elf" but the CD stopped playing after a while. So glad to be able to hear it again. Does anyone have this available for download?
Reviewer: grendelschoice - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - November 27, 2006
Subject: The precision of '77 AND the fire of '78
First of all, i do so love it when I find a SCARLET>FIRE that automatically falls into my Top 5 all-time, just when I thought it wasn't possible. This version bounces and pops and builds to an amazing frenzy before the FIRE transition and goes gangbusters from there.

Brilliant, and indicative of the entire show, which, as I say in the title header, combines the best aspects of 1977 (precision playing, very few flubs lyrically or musically) and 1978, a year marked by a ton of passion and energetic jamming but --usually, not here-- a lot of sloppy, ugly playing.

Other standouts of this show are a slow yet funky AIKO, a kick-ass ESTIMATED>EYES (how often do you get a Sc>Fire and Est>Eyes in the same show?), and in set 1, great verisons of CASSIDY and DIRE WOLF. The show 4 days earlier in NC at Duke was just as good, but I'd give the nod slightly to this one for the 2nd set.

I'm normally not a huge fan of '78, but this gem is a rare exception and a must have.
Reviewer: doctor_c - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - November 22, 2006
Subject: Will Not Disappoint
This show has been a favorite of mine for a while. Jerry's playing is brilliant from start to finish. Make sure to listen up when he solos in Peggy-O, I never really liked the song before I heard this one. This is certainly one of the top 10 most played in my collection, probably top 5, even non-Deadheads jaws drop at FotM.
Reviewer: NoNervana - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - July 29, 2006
Subject: what
alright im new
someone tell me how the fuck i download this instead of just listening to it live
Reviewer: Grateful Nate - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - May 4, 2006
Subject: Scarlet > Fire
Perfect sound. Great playing. Too many tasty moments to mention. The Scarlet > Fire can not go unmentioned though. This is the best version I've ever heard. I'm sure I haven't heard them all but this stands out to me as being the most dynamic, creative and perfectly played. Actually Jerry's solo in Scarlet before the last verse is probably my favorite guitar solo I've ever heard of his. I'm a picker though so I might hear things a little differently than some. Maybe not though. Check it out. Give it a listen. 5 stars all the way IMHO. They only played WV 2 times. Here and once again in '83. I think at this show they gave it all they had to share the music with the ole' hillbillies in West Virginny.
Reviewer: octothorp - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - December 3, 2005
Subject: Nice and eacy
A track from this show popped up in a shuffle at my brother's house, and it immediately caught my attention for the nice easy groove. Now I can see the whole show is worth it.
Reviewer: Mt700 - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - October 23, 2005
Subject: Great show
Five stars on performance and sound quality. I got the first set from the same source back in 89 and its grat to finally get the second set!
Reviewer: del boca vista - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - August 31, 2005
Subject: I concur
This is the best EYES I've ever heard. The pace of the song is an upbeat dancing version. Great Estimated into EYES. A must download!
Reviewer: *jackstraw* - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - August 28, 2005
Subject: EYES
This version of Eyes gives this show a 5-star by itself. Have heard many but this is IT!!! If you know of a better one I want to know about it, but I doubt it's out there. Estimated is solid as is the overplayed Sugar Mags. Good first set. A MUST download for Eyes alone.
Reviewer: panamint kid - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - July 23, 2005
Subject: Minglewood!
Nice, high energy show, worth the download. Crank the Minglewood, its one of the better 77-78 versions.
Reviewer: shnaholic - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - March 4, 2005
Subject: superb show
definitely one of the best, if not the best show from 1978. i will never tire of hearing this show. i'd like to say i've lived it but i was only 14 then, and oh so stupid. didnt get into the boys til a few years later. then what a time we had. its all cloudy and hazy now but im sure i had a blast.
Reviewer: Abeface - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - October 13, 2004
Subject: Great vibe throughout
Very nice show to have for your collection. One of those analogs that has travelled many miles in the car with me. It starts off nice, Straw features Phil and Jerry guessing ahead of one another, always a good sign. The Dire Wolf is fired up and the Cassidy has a very satisfactory climax. The highlight for me is the Estimated > Eyes. A favorite of mine, the Estimated has incredible energy, especially with Jerry during the solo. The Eyes is faster than normal, with everyone jamming on the same page. I envision the last solo playing along with the end credits of a movie, just brining good vibes to everyone involved. You can listen to that over and over. See for yourself...
Reviewer: fireonshakedownstreet - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - October 5, 2004
Subject: Wake Up to Find Out That You Are the Eyes Of the World.
This show is the real Deal folks. One of the best shows of 1978 from start to finish. A rare First Set Scarlet>Fire that rocks. Garcia is on fire throughout with both his playing and singing. Samson and Delilah rocks SOO HARD. Phil the Drummers even Keith is doing his thing. What a groove. Peggy O and TLEO have beautiful solos reaching some insane heights. Estimated has Jerry reaching that special place that only he can reach and brings me immeasureable joy. THE highlight of this show EYES OF THE WORLD. Its the fastest version ive heard and the second solo has some of the most beautiful Dead Music I have ever heard. HEY NOW HEY NOW IKO IKO RIPS!! All in all one of the best in my favorite year:1978.

Peace
fireonshakedownstreet
Reviewer: sp4zzj4zz - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - September 20, 2004
Subject: Smokin' Show!
Not much I can say that hasn't already been said. Im a Huntington native and when I first learned about the Dead and tape trading I sought out this show to be my first tape. Fell in love with the show on first listen. Probably one of my very favorite Scarlet > Fire's. Highly recomended for new and old fans alike.
Reviewer: sp4zzj4zz - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - September 20, 2004
Subject: Smokin' Show!
Not much I can say that hasn't already been said. Im a Huntington native and when I first learned about the Dead and tape trading I sought out this show to be my first tape. Fell in love with the show on first listen. Probably one of my very favorite Scarlet > Fire's. Highly recomended for new and old fans alike.
Reviewer: Sal Paradise - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - July 2, 2004
Subject: A Hot First Set
...in fact, I rarely get to the 2nd set of this show. Worth it for the Jack Straw alone. Quite a jam after the second verse, Jerry scrambles some eggs, and the "Jack Straw from Wichita cut his buddy down" verse is passioniate. Download this for some of the best of '78.
Reviewer: redbones - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - June 9, 2004
Subject: Hot Show
This is a typical '78 show - that is to say very crispy. The Jack Straw is fired up, as is the Peggy-O (with Jerry actually growling at one point). The second set goodies of Scarlet->Fire and Estimated->Eyes are the meat of the show, and deliver in high fashion. Worth the space, and the digi-noise is annoying but not bad enough to prevent the download.
Reviewer: 1974Eyes - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - May 17, 2004
Subject: Great Show!
I am a bigger fan of early 70's dead, but most of '77 and some of '78 is hard to beat. This particular show was one of only two played in my home state of WV. They gave Marshall U a good show on this night, with a smokin' Estimated>Eyes and one of my fav Scarlet>Fire's of the late 70's. A fired up Jack Straw opener and a standard first set with a nice Cassidy. Recommended for all deadheads.
Reviewer: fez_43 - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - May 9, 2004
Subject: some comments
this is a pristine source of an old favorite show of mine...the scarlet>fire is absolutley divine. and an improvement over whatever analog source I had my hands on 10 years ago! this is a great sounding show
Reviewer: twiley - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - April 17, 2004
Subject: Grateful Dead: April 16th, 1978 (SBD)
I personally like this show. Granted its not the top 10 preformances by the band. However this one I highly recommend. There are some great songs played on this show. The Scarlet>Fire is a smoker. The Fire really has nice jams. Even the Estimated>Eyes is well played! Especially the Estimated! I rate it a 4. Grab this one fo sho! Digi static on the last 2 songs I can live with for now until a better copy surfaces.
Reviewer: gankmore - 1.00 out of 5 stars - April 16, 2004
Subject: sounds good, except for...
This is a great sounding recording of a pretty typically average 78 show show with one exception: There's a little digi-noise here and there not big hard static but the marks of a slightly misaligned dat head somewhere in the history. Or it could be a tint of static way ahead of it's time, pretending to be digi-noise. Anybody have a cleaner copy?

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